Although Gavin already handed the mantle of hardcore over to the Newmore Switchblades, I think there were two better candidates: Justice and the Bloody Beetroots.
Although Gavin already handed the mantle of hardcore over to the Newmore Switchblades, I think there were two better candidates: Justice and the Bloody Beetroots. True, they don’t play hardcore, but neither do four-fifths of the Switchblades so that obviously isn’t the definitive criteria. And if we’re going to judge based on riotous shows, violence, and bitches, the electro DJs take the cake.
Case in point: Justice’s tour documentary, A Cross the Universe. It’s basically 60 minutes of the Parisians sleeping with girls, getting into fights, and shooting guns, all under the pretense of a cross-country American tour. Not only does the film feature violence and women, there’s violence against women; at one point, Xavier (the smaller, Asian looking one) douses an annoying groupie in vodka and tries to light her ablaze. Now that’s hardcore.
Romain Gavras, the guy who directed the documentary, also did Justice’s video for “Stress.” The song itself was hardcore enough for Fucked Up to cover, but the video just blew shit away. They refused to air it in Paris on bizarre grounds that it was racist, but it was actually because people were afraid it would encourage summer-of-2005-like riots.
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Justice – Stress (Fucked Up cover)
And although Justice do put out sugary pop hits that make your teeth fall out, their live shows are actually full of harder shit, like Metallica and “Waters of Nazareth”.
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Justice – Waters of Nazareth
Then there’s the Bloody Beetroots, who JFK (formerly of Death From Above 1979 fame; currently half of MSTRKRFT) to proclaimed punk during their first meeting. And in fact one of the guys used to play in a shitty punk band, but now the Italian duo stick to producing brutal electro. They’re on Steve Aoki’s label, Dim Mak, and he often “performs” with them, making him sort of like the the Flavor Flav of dance music. The Bloody Beetroots’ video for their song “Cornelius” amply sums up the carnage that is their live show.
The Beetroots’ remixes also occasionally have hardcore influences, if not actually being remixes of metal songs.
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Goose – Black Gloves (The Bloody Beetroots remix)
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The Bloody Beetroots – Ill to Destroy
And lastly, there are the girls. Being largely free of facial piercings and chest tats, they aren’t exactly a testament to hardcore, but have you seen them? If you’re ever wondering where a majority of those Boner Alerts from Last Night’s Party and Arab Parrot are shot, it’s safe to assume that it was at an electro party. Here are a few I dug up from Cobrasnake’s website that were shot at either a Justice or Bloody Beetroots show:
Excellent post.
Check out this 30 second clip i shot (POV from their turntables) of the Bloody Beetroots
http://vimeo.com/4023814
fucking shit up at Webster Hall. THEY KILLED MSTRKRFT.
Agreed on the girls backstage at electro concerts. The Bloody Beetroots show was where i spotted the April 10 Street Boners http://streetbonersandtvcarnage.com/streetboners/street-boner-642-2/#comments
In the VIP room after party it was just bangable broads on couches laying around waiting for an unmasked dj to pick them to make out with- kinda ridiculous. Masks off they’re not that hot…
Honestly though, after seeing Boys Noize annihilate i’m kinda over Justice…
but that part in A Cross the Universe where Xavier tries to light the drunk bitch on fire was hilarious. i spoke dirty French to him this one time. Unfortunately, he didn’t try to set me on fire, he just laughed.
Excellent post.
Check out this 30 second clip i shot (POV from their turntables) of the Bloody Beetroots fucking shit up at Webster Hall. THEY KILLED MSTRKRFT. (CLICK “COMMENT AWAITING MODERATION IS TEH GHEYZ” URL )
Agreed on the girls backstage at electro concerts. The Bloody Beetroots show was where i spotted the April 10 Street Boners.
In the VIP room after party it was full of bangable broads on couches laying around waiting for an unmasked dj to pick them to make out with- kinda ridiculous. Masks off they’re not that hot…
Honestly though, after seeing Boys Noize annihilate i’m kinda over Justice…
but that part in A Cross the Universe where Xavier tries to light the drunk bitch on fire was hilarious. i spoke dirty French to him this one time. Unfortunately, he didn’t try to set me on fire, he just laughed.
thank you for this.
File this under; Most forgettable bands of 2008.
‘bangable broads’? REALLY VAL? REALLY?!?!?
this “stress” video rather seemed to be designed for the internet anyway.
but, to me, the real problem with this video is that the guys featured on screen have nothing to do with the real justice fans.
justice fans : not scary (rather funny, if anything) / 10 pissed off thugs from parisian suburbs : fucking scary.
justice just tried to buy themselves some balls with that shit. ridicule.
Bad music. Stupid people.
Oui c’est vrai….
papa like, regardless
Yes, this was a refreshingly good post.
WTF happened to everyone?!?!?!?!?!
When did pushing play on another person’s records become acceptable to us?
“But hold on a minute dude, this is totally different, they take the songs and make them there own man, they thrown in crazy beats and shit”
Well FUCK THAT! How about they make some songs of their own for once, I say it is high time to get off of Steve Douchoki and company’s balls and let them quit pretending that they are in a band, it was bad enough that I couldn’t escape those privileged tools and their horrid parties in palm springs last month yet alone the all of my early 20s in LA.
so sad.
But who am I kidding, you guys would let any hairy ball sack that said DimMak slap up against your chins because you don’t know what you are talking about
I recommend letting him put something out for you on his label, then you will see what’s what.
“When did pushing play on another person’s records become acceptable to us?”
RE: @ucanhazit
Have you ever watched 24 Hour Party People? You might find the answers you’re looking for there…
& it’s STEVE GAYOKI
you numb nuts.
@Street Boning
YEA RLY! Um, & they’re not bands either so stop asking for original content (@ ucanhazit) They’re DJs you fggts. Hellooooo
Thought you meant the shitty hardcore band Justice. This is worse.
It sounds like you know absolutely nothing about electronic music if you think Bloody Beetroots/Justice is “hardcore” because a couple of french faggots got really drunk and tried to do dumb shit.
The KLF is more fucking hardcore than anything these guys will ever do. Bloody Beatroots is two dweebs in shitty wrestling masks trying to hustle pussy.
How many of them have the balls to write a guide to making a number one pop hit record and have it work? Burn a million pounds? Delete your entire back catalogue?
CHECK CONGOROCK OUT! he’s from the aoki/beetroots crew, but groovier and heavier
This is an enjoyable post because the dude probably spent like 5 minutes doing it–4 of which were spent just embedding stuffs. I bet if you talked to him about it today: (You) “Man, that was a good post you did then.” (Him) “What one?” (You) “Yesssssss.” Nonchalant, unflappable posts with a soundtrack are where it’s at. Also, there are non-irritating pictures included. Bravo.
KLF are pretty hardcore, particularly so when they fired a machine gun full of blanks at an unsuspecting crowd. Only problem is that there music is beyond horrible.
*their
the new “hardcore” is bands like failures or nazi dust. not this fucking gay dance music
Good post,
Dont shit on something if you don’t know anything about it people
This is the worst thing ever. Sorry consuala, but Justice is not exactly obscure.
whoah inspired.
Seen all of these guys and the Crookers many times. I wouldn’t say they suck but they are terribly, criminally overrated. Why? Simple – they all use the same fucking stuttering sound palette for every song. You’d think with all the analog synth gear Justice uses to decorate their stage show they’d be able to squeeze out a variety of sounds, but no…every set just turns into 90 mins of the same shit. It’s almost as bad as being stuck in the Drum n’ Bass room at a party. It’s awesome for the first fifteen minutes, okay for the next ten and then your ears get fucking BORED.
And everytime I make these legit criticisms what do I get in return from Justice fans:
“Yeah, but they have a glowing cross and they wear cool leather jackets”.
Nevermind when they get started on the DJ’s wearing masks…
I come to this site to learn about cool new things (and drugs), not tired trends that are now painfully mainstream. And I like Justice. Have seen them live a couple times; it’s fun. I had to leave the Bloody Beatroots set at Coachella because it was like a bad rave. I took it as a sign that electro has peaked and is on the way down in terms of quality (And again, I like this stuff, was a huge MSTRKRFT fan, but their recent album is a bit boring and their shows post-2007 also have that bad rave vibe). I am ready for next wave.
But don’t worry, there are many other places to find young girls wearing American Apparel.
see those pictures of girls? hardcore shows didn’t have those…
can someone please explain justice’s relationship with christianity
Habitual drug user, i agree.
Justice don’t strike me as the pious types.
THIS IS THE WORST POST I’VE EVER READ ON THIS SITE
I really like Justice, and I suppose they can be considered “hardcore” with the way they act and shit maybe, if you have to be a fucking hip prick who needs to re-label something
But the Bloody Beetroots sound (and probably smell) like my Sparks hangover popcorn diarrhea 5 years ago
Fuck this
Also I got a hundo notes on all of those girls being boring lays, the type just staring at the dresser, waiting for you to give them more blow while you throw your hot dog down her hallway
My friend won tickets to the Across The Universe premier so we got to go, it was so good. They also fed aspirin or something to a squirrel.
1. I have no idea what you guys mean when you say ‘hard core.’ Is this what you mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw4Xt-Z0wlQ
http://www.myspace.com/fathme
2. This was going on(link above) in SF/LA/Europe for the last half-decade AKA anyone who thinks ‘the Justices’ are hard core because they play Metallica needs a bullet in their head. Same goes for ‘the Beetrooters.’
3. Seriously, are all the writers trolls now?
@ eric
Thats true
Its getting really annoying how everyone who knows nothing about electro will praise justice as gods
You should try turning the kids onto urethane wheels and kicktails over on some skateboarding blogs.
Just a few notes.. first of all… I must of been living under a rock for the last few years if this Justice band is considered “hardcore” let alone anything hard. ps- parisian thugs are least intimidating people on earth. Then I gave The Bloody Beatroots a listen. That lasted about 20 seconds. It’s nothing but rehashed rave beats from around 1995. The only good thing about this “scene” seems to be the ladies. Pass the earplugs and point me in the right direction.
Just a few notes.. first of all… I must of been living under a rock for the last few years if this Justice band is considered “hardcore” let alone anything hard. ps- parisian thugs are least intimidating people on earth. Then I gave The Bloody Beatroots a listen. That lasted about 20 seconds. It’s nothing but rehashed rave beats from around 1995. The only good thing about this “scene” seems to be the ladies. Pass the earplugs and point me in the right direction.
SO MANY PEOPLE WHO DIED FROM HEROIN JUST ROLLED OVER IN THEIR GRAVE
“SO MANY PEOPLE WHO DIED FROM HEROIN JUST ROLLED OVER IN THEIR GRAVE”
to hide the boner that THE NEW “HARDCORE” just gave them!
it’s way easy to score yayo yo. but theres way heavier shit out there!!! trouble and bass!!!!
did you post this from 2007? seriously what gives.
is Arv the fat guy in a cross the universe with all the face piercings?
It’s hilarious how everyone gets their perfectly-worn leather jockstraps in a knot when anyone treads on the sacred hardcore music genre. If anything, the hardcore scene is more prissy when it comes to clothes than the fucking electro scene. FUCKING ELECTRO. Plus, the bitches are infinitely hotter anyway. You people realize that chicks in the hardcore scene look like Lithuanian bridge trolls, right?
PS – 2nd pic from the bottom is going in the folder that nobody knows about. Saved.
Electro banger chicks are hotter than any other music scene so I guess they “win” but you aren’t going to be fucking any of them so who cares.
I liked this entire topic better when it was called Carl Crack and the Atari Teenage Riot
im seriously, wtf
this is sad
^^ the justice “video”…..this is all well and good in France but if some kids tried to pull that shit for more than a minute here they would get shot in the face. end of story.
This is fun stuff but heir to hardcore? Hardly.
If pretty girls find it accessible it’s not hardcore. It’s too casual.
If anything is the new hardcore it’s the modern garage punk thing.
im just saying you guys, how much more badass would Justice be if Alec Empire was writing their songs?
I like Arv, and I like Justice
@latered : they would not get shot (no guns in paris or so rarely), but they’d be arrested real fast. for sure.
it’s like they had compiled a series of shits that happen everyday. and this things do happen, that i can tell you. but all of them in a row… i think not.
@ french guy – yeah i believe that shit like that happens from time to time in France. I was just saying, if you are going to go with the “new hardcore” label for guys in France then maybe Arv/Justice is onto something. here, in the US you would get your ass lit up for acting like that. this is not a pro USA! rant btw…
THIS POST WAS FUCKING AWESOME.
and i dont give a shit about this music (but i kind of do now)
Boyz Noize feat. Gucci Mane i hear is fucking sick (but i havent heared it yet)
sooooo many pseudo tough-guys in here. hardcore has gone FUCKING gay. with your $2000 tattoos and your stupid emo choruses. back to the birdcage, flagrants.
Ugh, if you can’t distinguish from the fact that this is the same typical aggro bullshit that came out of numetal in the late nineties you are exactly the fucking retard who will worship this baby shit.
the new hardcore? justice as relevant? are you retarded? is it 2007?
The fuck…
Wow . . . I thought Street Carnage was supposed to be cutting edge or something. Waters of Nazareth came out in 2005 I think? Come on, if it was something from last year that would be reasonable, but this is a scene that is four years old at this point.
Come on Street Carnage, show us something new.
. . . and no more Newmore Switchblades.
The new hardcore? Come on, this is more like the new hair/glam metal. With all the girls, cocaine and glamor this is more like Poison than Poison Idea, douche.
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