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Dave Carnie
• 08.21.09 02:48 pm


Friends and shithead commenters, I’d like to introduce you to one of my favorite degenerate scribes, David Carnie.


Self-portrait by Dave Carnie

Friends and shithead commenters, I’d like to introduce you to one of my favorite degenerate scribes, David Carnie. Dave is a writer who, along with Chris Nieratko, first got his chops at the awesome yet now-defunct Big Brother skateboard magazine, which was famously “the most subversive thing a person could buy at a grocery store” (for all its girly pics, bomb recipes, and suicide how-to’s) before it folded in 2004. Thereafter Dave operated as a crucial member of the Jackass World phenomenon until recently. This 39 year old Charles Manson-looking hobgoblin presently works as a staff writer at the Skateboard Mag. He additionally helps out a dude called Ryan Stutt to breathe life into skateboard site extraordinaire King Shit, with whom we here at Street Carnage have proudly cross-posted the following rant by Dave Carnie about roller-skaters, skateboarding’s international governing body, and why these two vastly divergent groups are duking it out for control at the Olympics.

-Peter Madsen

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I went out to Boston for the Dew Tour “International Skateboard Federation World Championships.” You’ve never heard of the ISF? Skateboard World Championships? What the fuck? Yeah, it was a Dew Tour contest, but it was also an International Skateboard World Championship. Even though I’m a member of the ISF and an executive board director for USA Skateboarding (USAS—or “Us Ass,” as I like to call it), the “Skateboarding World Championships” has a peculiar ring to it. But I helped make it happen and I’m a member of what will become skateboarding’s international governing body. I like to kid that I’m not really sure how it happened—because, on the surface, I don’t really fit in with the group we’ve assembled (as Mark Waters said, “You couldn’t get further apart on the skateboard spectrum than Dave Carnie and Andy MacDonald”)—but I had a small part in getting the whole thing started.

The short version of the story is: skateboarding is going to be in the Olympics whether we like it or not. I don’t like it. But NBC and the IOC (International Olympic Committee) want it. And they’ll get it one way or another. If it isn’t done by skateboarders, it will be done by one of the handful of other groups that are out there trying to claim they are the “the official governing body of skateboarding.” Most notably, a group called Rollersports. They are an international group of rollerskaters, called FIRS (Federation Internationale de Rollersports) who are recognized as the governing body of rollerskating. Unfortunately for them, rollerskating is not yet an Olympic sport. Probably because no one rollerskates anymore unless it’s Halloween (“Roller girl!”), or there’s a 70’s theme party going on?

A few years ago Rollersports realized that rollerskating’s numbers were on the decline, so they decided to rebrand themselves by changing their name to “Rollersports,” and thus claiming jurisdiction over anything that was a sport on wheels. Namely, skateboarding. They saw the popularity of skateboarding, and they no doubt saw dollar signs, so they wanted a piece of our pie. And already being an internationally recognized sports federation, they were in a good position to take control of skateboarding and receive the money that helps to fund the growth of any new sport.

When this all started, I interviewed their spokeswoman, Dinah Robbins, at their US offices which are located in Nebraska. She readily admitted that there is no one in their organization that skateboards, but they were the group that would be the governing body of skateboarding. She tried to persuade me that they only want what’s best for skateboarding. I made the rather bold suggestion that wouldn’t the best thing for skateboarding be that it’s run by actual skateboarders? She said that skateboards have wheels that roll, so technically it’s a rollersport, and thus fell within their jurisdiction. Figure skaters wear ice skates and skate on ice, but that doesn’t mean they should be making decisions for hockey, does it?

I brought this issue to the skateboard community’s attention and suggested we should probably all join forces and create a governing body. World Cup, IASC, etc., I said, “Let’s all get together.” Around the same time, the head of NBC contacted Gary Ream, President of Woodward Skateboard Camps, about getting skateboarding organized and ready to enter the Olympics. Snowboarding was a huge success for the Winter Olympics, but the IOC went about it all wrong and it was actually a huge mess. Snowboarding went into the Olympics under the International Ski Federation. Despite the similarities between the two disciplines, they couldn’t be more different. And so skiing fucked up snowboarding. While the IOC and NBC really, really want skateboarding in the Olympics, they’ve come to realize that they don’t want to make the same mistake they did with snowboarding. They want to make sure that skateboarding is governed and run by actual representatives from the sport. Thus the birth of the International Skateboard Federation.

The group consists of a lot of the big names and instrumental players in the skateboard industry, from Tony Hawk and Chris Miller, to Mark Waters and Tod Swank, Don Bostick, Jim Fitzpatrick, etc.. (You can see the list of members and get more information at www.usaskateboarding.org, and www.internationalskateboardingfederation.com.) In short, skateboarders and the skateboard industry will be chairing the governing body of skateboarding. We are not the official governing body yet, however. There are a number of steps required in the application process, and one of the last ones was having a world championships. That’s what that whole contest in Boston was about. And now that we’ve checked that off, it won’t be long before we are the ultimate rulers of world of skateboarding. RULERS! You will do what we say!

I kid, of course. But the whole point of becoming the governing body of skateboarding was so that we can remain ungoverned. And if any big decisions befall skateboarding, like the Olympics, they will be made by skateboarders. Because if Rollersports got a hold of skateboarding, there’s no telling what they’d do with it. As you can see from this little tidbit from their website, they totally get skateboarding (sarcasm).

“This is a show of the emerging roller disciplines which are day by day reaching the same importance of the ‘historical’ official roller disciplines. Much appreciated by young people, these sports are stylish, aggressive, acrobatic, in a word: modern sports for young people.”

Thank you Rollersports for your interest in our stylishly aggressive acrobatic roller discipline, but we’ll take it from here.

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Comments
  1. Vane$$a says:

    Interesting, but I don’t get how skiing fucked up snowboarding at the Olympics and why roller derby or whatever will fuck up skateboarding at the Olympics.

  2. drippy dog dix and cum bubbles or something says:

    Haven’t read anything from Dave Carnie in a long time. I’m a huge fan, and really glad to see this. He’s definitely one of the funniest writers around. Fingers crossed we’ll see more of him here. If you’re unfamiliar, take a look at his other stuff, especially the earlier Big Brother magazines.

  3. omg sooo randum says:

    fuck yes, more carnie posts please..

    people should google his anti-xgames posts..

    this was the guy that steve-o rants against in his emails for those of you keeping score

  4. lady says:

    Dave Carnie is not supposed to be here

  5. lady says:

    He wrote this same fucking thing in like issue 100 of big brother too

  6. lady says:

    6 fucking years ago!

  7. John Doie says:

    FUCK YEAH! DARF CARN CARN!!!!

  8. John Doie says:

    ^^^that’s not me but I absolutely share your enthusiasm.

  9. Zippy says:

    This country has more half-assed competitions. When I saw competitive eating, I thought that was the bottom, but now we got these gnarly duds out there with trick bikes and skateboards doing half twist ball grab slides or whatever that shit is supposed to be.

    And yeah, I’m pissed because I can barely walk a straight line, let alone skateboard so get off my shit.

  10. Kennedy says:

    Rollerblading is so unpopular and uncool that the American Rollerblading Association disbanded because no one wanted to be president of it. Get to work, irony-lovers!

  11. HOMO says:

    sorry john doie, it just plopped your name on here, but yeah, I love dana carvey, more from that kook!!!

  12. Cuntvomit says:

    Dave carnie and skateboarding are cooler than any of you fags.

  13. flickin'beans says:

    this horse is dead, please stop beating it. skateboarding will forever be prostituted by the powers that be, nothing can change that.

  14. ARROWS says:

    FUCK ISF, FUCK DEW, FUCK THE OLYMPICS, AND FUCK CARNIE! What happened to skateboarding? The olympics!? Its just another douche bag jock sport now. At least the next generation of skateboarders will get to fuck some cheerleaders.

  15. John Doie says:

    flickin you missed the point of the article. Why don’t you read it next time.

  16. observer says:

    michael jackson re-conspiracies yesterday……..an article written seven years ago by Dave Carnie today…monday we’ll be reading about how everyone disdains hipsters huh? fuck crass get back here gavin.

  17. thetomcat says:

    He is obviously threatened by rollerblading if he is still writing about it.

    I wonder if this is the reason….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5lO7t_A2UE
    (dont be narrow minded, watch the whole thing, it will blow your mind)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqHRZ9MT3vk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oLm9J60Z08

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPbcv2QvFcg
    hahahaha

    the skateboarders cry about rollerblading so much, not realizing its just the same thing, the battle is bullshit. just 10 years ago skateboarders were punk outcasts and were made fun of by jocks. Its just a cycle, now everyone and their mom has a board cause its “cool” and sexbladers are blading because they love it. I’ll take deathblading over twigflipping any day but thats just me, Im not gonna cry about how much better one or the other is, Dave Carnie is funny….but is making a childs argument.

  18. jelly says:

    wouldnt the best thing for skateboarding be to let the olympics fuck it up? let the masses have ryan sheckler and shaun white be the posterboys and think thats what its about and in a few years everyone will be playing with yo-yos and riding razor scooters again. then the ratings will drop and skateboarding will be kicked out like baseball…and then brought back but no one will give a fuck.

  19. Joe says:

    Die rollersports die!

  20. sho nuff says:

    @thetomcat… your comment is a prime example of why skateboarders make fun of rollerbladers. sexblading? twigflipping? fuck off, dork.

  21. joey mcsqueeb says:

    dude, skateboarding should 100% and totally-thoroughly be an olympic sport. there is no question about it. also…eighth grade chicks rule!

  22. thetomcat says:

    @sho nuff…..lol.

  23. miss appalachian says:

    have any of you seen the gotham girls roller derby? rollersports is for roller derby. who rollerblades? that shit doesn’t even exist. roller derby is about to take over the world. just wait.

  24. mark sexblader rogowski says:

    those sexblading videos made me hate sexblading even more now than i did before.

  25. omg sooo randum says:

    I dunno how this turned into a fruitbooters vs skateboarders forum like you’d see on the thrasher bulletin boards, but thetomcat – yes the stuff the guys did was impressive, but they still looked like ballerinas doing it.

    2 best rollerblade videos:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HRSyE6whBk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9q30Ce2vwE

  26. who farted says:

    WhaleCock on streetcarnage bout fucking time.

  27. thetomcat says:

    haters be hating. I have to admit, Ryan Shekler and Bam Margera are really cool guys. lol

  28. Anonymous says:

    “Unfortunately for them, rollerskating is not yet an Olympic sport. Probably because no one rollerskates anymore unless it’s Halloween (“Roller girl!”), or there’s a 70’s theme party going on?”

    Or you are in a hurry to score some meth…?

  29. Ozone says:

    This is like Breakin 2 Electric Boogaloo when the street dancers organized a dance party to save the rec center

  30. summich says:

    dave carnie!!! fuck yeah!!!! i read big brother religiously til it shut down. that was maybe my favorite magazine evvar!!!!

  31. wyatt says:

    this is the best thing from rollersports site:

    Acrobatics on half pipes or specific skateparks on the renowned four wheeled platform. Recognised different styles: Freestyle – Aerials – Flip tricks – Slides and Lip Tricks.

    yes! they GET IT.

  32. Street Rats says:

    I got into skateboarding when I was about eight or nine years old and immediately picked up a subscription to bigbrother magazine becuase I thought it was hillarious. My eyes continued to be stretched open for the next 3 or 4 years before it all finally ended. I was devastated but continuned to read Carnie. Haven’t read this article yet, but I hope he’s on board with SBTVC now.

  33. my dick hurts says:

    thetomcat, you plug…you just made an arguement for fruitbooting vs. skating and then proceeded to say even touching that arguement was stupid.

    You are a prime example of a typical fag dumbass fruitbooter. I watched 2 minutes of that first video and couldn’t stop laughing. I’ll give you an idea of what everyone else see’s when they watch rollerblading videos like the one’s you posted;

    Here is this asian ballerina dude, dancing down the street like he’s Gene Kelly with some post-punk revival shit playing in the background.

    Do you realize how absurdly stupid it is?

    Go fuck yourself. Carnie is amazing. Skateboarding is dead.

  34. Robert W. says:

    It is a great photo of Dave in drag, are dragqueens big in skateboardinbg?

  35. moishe says:

    once my friend was doing some extra work for this after-school special about skateboarding or something and he was congregated at this skate park with a bunch of other skateboarder extras and a bunch of rollerbladers too. the skateboarders referred to the in-line dudes as “fruitbooters” so incessantly that the director, not knowing any better, got on the bullhorn and was like, “ok, for this scene, we’re going to need all of the fruitbooters off to one side.” at which point, a roar of mocking laughter erupted from the skateboarders. doesn’t that just make you feel GOOD inside?

  36. John Doie says:

    @Moishe
    Hell yeah! I feel great inside when I “mockingly laugh.” Are you kidding?

  37. thetomcat says:

    moishe YTMND cool story bro. MDH since you didnt watch the whole thing you’re opinion doesnt matter, If you have ever seen the rail in santa monica you would know, no skateboarder can hit it, Shima did. end of story.

  38. John Doie says:

    ok thanks tomcat. Good luck with your comatose inline industry. Cheers.

  39. MDH says:

    Skateboarders can’t hit stupid big rails in santa monica because skateboarding is simply more difficult than urban figure skating.

    That’s my point you fucking dork.

  40. Sal says:

    What ever happened to Preck?

  41. grimey says:

    yeah i bought roller skates so i could be roller boy for halloween but also because i knew deep down in my heart that one day you wouldn’t have to be gay to roller skate, or that i would have the courage to come out

    ps adopting the skateboarding lifestyle is a great way to get advertised to! how shitty does a skateboarding magazine have to be to fail? like there’s some kind of lack of skateboarding themed products to advertise? i guess skateboarders just don’t know how to read??

  42. kenny says:

    haha well shit. heres the deal. all you dumbfucks who hate on rollerblading (whether u are good at skating or not) are just following the dumbest scene there is. more than 89% of you suck. but yet half of you still get sponsored. try rollerblading then try talking shit. bail out of you’re tricks as well. we dont have that blessing, we have to take what ever we get our selves into. i know numerous skateboarders who have no problems with rollerbladers. we doing the same shit as u. skating!!!!! skateparks, street, getting trespassed, making videos, magazines, fuck. but we dont have huge companys with never ending pockets to pay for all our shit. we love what we do and we do it, because dumbfucks like you make your sport to be filled with “dumbass jocks, who hate anyone who isnt like them” so get off the giant dick that skateboarding has shoved up your ass. we arent that different, your just to populated to realize that your up for a falling. your industry is slowly dieing, and rollerblading has gone global beyond belief but you wouldnt know that because your in your own world. i have nothing against skateboarders excepts the faggots that shit on my sport.

  43. Mike says:

    Rollersports can’t even have roller derby, since WFTDA has that covered. Can’t they just run for city council and stay out of things they know nothing of?

  44. Michael says:

    Tomcat, kenny, et al…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollerblade

    And please, let’s ease up on all the dick talk.

  45. thetomcat says:

    The correct term is Deathblading. lol

  46. Clapback. says:

    @Kenny- Seriously? Your ‘sport’? WTF is a sport? You mean with teams? Who said anything about sports? Who fucking cares about handrails anyway? That weird asian dude was just prancing around like a nancy. Were those supposed to be wall rides? He just kicked the thing with his gay boot. And the fucking slo-mo ender? I could do that. But I wouldn’t. Know why? Because it looked like he was doing a pirouette in flannel.

    2 words: GRIND PLATES.

  47. aziz says:

    you know the what the hardest thing about rollerblading is?

    telling your parents your gay.

  48. John Doie says:

    ahahahhahahahahaha!^^^^^

  49. thetomcat says:

    you know the hardest thing about skateboarding?

    getting the WHOLE board up your ass.

  50. John Doie says:

    where do you live tomcat I want to kick your face in.

  51. Tom Bom, jolly Tom says:

    Mitchell Goosen + Snake + Devil’s Backbone = rollerblades FTW!

  52. Tomcat is an idiot! says:

    Lets start this off saying I am a rollerblader, I have been for 14 years of my life and I do love doing it. Now that I got that out of the way I would like to apologize for all the idiot fucking rollerbladers in the world. People like tomcat DO NOT represent rollerblading. He is a whiney little bitch who had no reason to come on here and say anything. The only reason I even saw this is because tomcat is a fucking idiot and posted this link into a rollerblading messageboard thinking he would get support. Not one other rollerblader on the message board showed any kind of support to him, they all told him how big of a fucking idiot he is. Lets end the argument…

    SKATEBOARDING IS BETTER!

    obviously, there is no argument. skatboarding has a billions of dollars pumping through it rollerblading industry has jack shit. but that does not take anything away from rollerblading. both are incredibly difficult and take years and years of dedication

  53. EAR2EAR says:

    twenty years ago eh? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097438/ starring cuffs

  54. EAR2EAR says:

    ut-oh, make that k instead of the c

  55. thetomcat says:

    hes right.


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